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Posted on 2006.04.17 at 13:02
Music: the orb - L.U.C.A
in mid-2003, i sold my white nissan S13 coupe to an army kid from an artillery battalion who'd just returned from a 6-month tour in iraq.

a few months earlier, when the war started, i'd been vacationing in virginia beach & DC with fearingtheart. i saw the "saddam statue getting toppled" footage in the airport in texas, where my return flight had a stopover.

while we were at the DMV waiting for the transfer-title paperwork, it didn't take very long to do the mental math- "wait, this is may, and this guy just finished half a year of shelling iraq?" maybe my memory is starting to fail me, but in late 2002 i thought we were still "hashing out in congress" whether or not we were going there.

this makes it difficult to decide who to believe- the mass media who say we're "carefully tiptoing through nuclear talks with iran", and the fringe, who say we're already using a mujahadeen force for "disavow-all-knowledge" covert ops.

i wish i could make sense of this, even in a "who-benefits/follow-the-money" kind of way- but i'm pretty sure that if we were THAT worried about rogue nations having nukes, we'd be camped out in pyongyang by now.


your token straight friend
pushshove at 2006-04-17 20:33 (UTC) (Link)
You should join the casadecesspool community -- most of the stuff posted there is friends only and you're just watching the community right now. That's where all the beach updates have been.
swallowing shadows to give birth to myself
eamajyn at 2006-04-17 20:39 (UTC) (Link)

we're at war with

eurasia... no east asia... er, eurasia!

betternewthings at 2006-04-18 00:23 (UTC) (Link)
He was probably in Kuwait.

I'm not at all worried about rogue nations having nukes. Over the last twenty or so years, Al Qaeda has only struck at the blue states.

I don't really have a dog in this fight.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-04-18 10:38 (UTC) (Link)
He was probably in Kuwait.

am i wrong in thinking artillery doesn't get shipped out anywhere that isn't going to become a smoking hole in the ground sometime soon? (or it would have, if rumsfeld weren't such a tightwad. small favors.)

Over the last twenty or so years, Al Qaeda has only struck at the blue states.

foo, you've been living in the south too long. move to nebraska until the secession thoughts go away; it's okay, still a red state.

but seriously, isn't it a bad enough thing that a nuclear weapon is detonated at all? i understand why you hate party-line liberals, but i really don't get why you seem so shocked by them. fanatics will find themselves a cause- at least the libruhls are down buying boot-cut low-rise whatever-the-fuck at the gap instead of strapping on TNT vests.

if AQ nukes NY, is your problem gone? no. OBL doesn't give a fuck about a red state. he wants symbolic targets that make for headlines. like disney world.
betternewthings at 2006-04-18 16:37 (UTC) (Link)
You have forgotten the two core values of the US military: training and boredom.

An artillery unit will ship out months in advance. Some of the equipment will arrive, the rest of it will be stuck in shipping. This entire supply chain is co-ordinated by highly-motivated teenagers that are in way over their depth.

It may take six months to move an army - the only other people who can move things as fast are the Mongols, but it's still six months (We have a few hundred C-17s and C-5s, and that's all the strategic airlift we've got besides CRAF)

They will take this equipment out in the Kuwaiti desert and drill and drill and drill.

Then they will spend a month or so doing "hurry up and wait".


It's not a party line thing. I'm OK with the vast majority of Democrats. I don't like rich liberals, and unfortunately the top of the party is full of rich liberals. As you may remember, Gephardt was my top choice for president. He actually worked for a living, unlike Nancy Pelosi and her protester constituency.

I have no thoughts of secession whatsoever. I like this country, I want it to get better, and I believe the majority of the country is with me.

I know, from direct experience, that a huge chunk of our liberal population does not like America - and they say so specifically in private. In public they like to fake it, but a cursory glance at democraticunderground or dailykos will find you plenty of people who say unambiguously that they do not like the United States.

Now we have Al Qaeda or Iran, who don't like America, planning nuke to a part of the world where they burn the American flag in the streets and raise the hammer and sickle.

Given that those kids would never pick up a rifle in my defense anyways, why should kids where I am from pick up a rifle in their defense?
kingduckbutter at 2006-04-18 05:10 (UTC) (Link)
dude check out "why we go to war" is a great doc and its on the torrent scene.

fearingtheart at 2006-04-18 19:18 (UTC) (Link)
crazy...I had nearly forgotten about that.
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