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bitten directly from scosol

Posted on 2006.01.07 at 00:33
Mood: listlesslistless
Music: lard - forkboy
is a post consisting of nothing but ghetto camera-phone pics.

i stepped out of the house earlier tonight and found myself in a very "orb" sort of place...

a crappy dutch angle on the car i used to motivate myself every day @ the subaru dealership... '06 WRX STI

the most undermarketed special-edition subaru ever made... if 2 other people reading this know why this legacy is special, i'll be very surprised

friend sam's WRX after he had some fun with it

finding this car boggled my mind. a decade and a half supporting the same political party, and they still haven't leveraged you into a car with a four-digit blue book value. you're a republican... why?


took 2 hours out of today to wrestle a new style out of lj's crappy s2 formatting system. time well spent, oh yeah.


Got Habits
wetnun at 2006-01-07 09:09 (UTC) (Link)
Cause that legacy has 75 more HP than the regular model? and 250lbs of torque to match? Much better than the normal setup. Did they actually rip the turbo 2.5 liter engine out of the sti model? Not to mention it's like $4K less than the sti at base cost.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-01-07 09:42 (UTC) (Link)
nope, that's a legacy spec B.

same exact engine/transmission as the regular legacy GT; the upgrades are all suspension and appointments (inverted struts like the STI has, 18" wheels, only legacy you can get with GPS nav and a manual tranny, etc).

the MSRP is about the same as the STI, and at that price i think it should have come with the STI engine/transmission, rather than just a special paint/leather color and the few meager upgrades it got.

but the fact that you haven't heard the details on this 500-unit edition is exactly my point. if they're going to charge BMW prices for this car, people should know what it is...
Got Habits
wetnun at 2006-01-07 09:57 (UTC) (Link)
Interesting. I find it amusing that for $24K I could have a SRT4 with 300hp. The only real diff at that point is the lack of 4WD. But not to bad for $8K less. Would have more turbo control also. *shrug*
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-01-07 10:06 (UTC) (Link)
well, price-for-price, an SRT4 is more of a fair comparison to a base-model WRX than an STI.

sure, you can get it up to the same power level as the hot-rod model, but you won't put it to the ground like an AWD car does, which in my mind makes the surplus useless.

also, last i checked, the SRT4's turbine side was still integrated with the exhaust manifold, which makes upgrade paths a lot more restrictive than with any subaru...

but then, i've been a FWD-hater since you've known me, which is not going to make any of the above a surprise ;)
Got Habits
wetnun at 2006-01-07 10:17 (UTC) (Link)
Hehe. I was expecting this response actually. :)

The upgrade changes the exhaust and upgrades the turbo while adding intelligent intercooler spray. It also allows you to control the boost levels based on driving conditions so you can maximize your fun or fuel economy.

The thing I find amusing is that unless I'm drag racing (which I basically never do since I consider it a stupid sport since anyone can go fast in a straight line) the horsepower difference doesn't seem to make as big of a difference. I get stuck behind Porsches in my honda all the time. It's quite annoying actually. But I have very little done in terms of power for my car. But I've modified the suspension so I just never slow down. :)
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-01-07 11:08 (UTC) (Link)
The upgrade changes the exhaust and upgrades the turbo while adding intelligent intercooler spray.

for purpose of argument, how much does both of those cost?

the '06 WRX TR is rated at 235lb/ft of torque- but the guys who've dynoed them have gotten more than that at the wheels. upgrade-for-upgrade, the scooby will match the neon for power output; but that says nothing of the difference in handling dynamic between the two cars; because even a standard Quaife in a FWD car doesn't match the ability to apply power in any circumstance that AWD has.

It also allows you to control the boost levels based on driving conditions so you can maximize your fun or fuel economy.

turbos do that by nature of what they are, though. they don't reach boost and start sucking down fuel unless you're at WOT. nevermind the fact that there are several aftermarket boost controllers that will watch throttle position signal and perform the same function you speak of.

I get stuck behind Porsches in my honda all the time.

well porsche vs subaru isn't an equal comparison at all in my mind. subarus are easy for anyone to drive fast- on the other hand, one mistake in a 911 will find you end-around-end twice over before you know what happened- so it doesn't surprise me that you don't find people as willing to push those cars as hard as you are on your civic.
betternewthings at 2006-01-07 17:18 (UTC) (Link)
porsche: both ends are pointy, because both ends go forward!
Got Habits
wetnun at 2006-01-07 20:15 (UTC) (Link)
Haha. Yeah. I think I've only spun one once. I'm surprised I didn't spin the elise. Granted I shouldn't fit in that car. It's fun to drive though.

With practice a Porsche isn't that bad to drive though. I mean these guys are going stupid slow. But as soon as you reach some sort of straight away they suddenly romp on it. But since they corner like pussies I've already caught back up in the next corner because they practically stop before entering.

I did manage to get a Porsche to play once coming down Stevens Creek Canyon from Hwy9. That was fun. He didn't start pulling away until right before the park/stop sign since he was a little too hesitant with corners. But he was willing to go much faster than any other Porsche I've ever followed through there. Don't think we broke 80 though. But we got close. Woulda been fucked if a big truck was coming up the hill... hehe
ice_9 at 2006-01-09 18:39 (UTC) (Link)
yeah, but who do you think drives Porsches?

the Boxster is a lawyer's wife's car, the 911 is a "lifestyle" vehicle, and even the Turbo is mostly for the "look how much money i spent" effect.

find someone with a GT3 and you'll probably be looking at his taillights as they recede into the distance.

but then, I'm a Porsche junkie, so I may be biased here.
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Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-01-07 10:07 (UTC) (Link)

Re: i can't wait to test drive that shit!

well, i recently quit steven's creek subaru, so unfortunately i won't be able to hook that up anymore... sorry :|
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Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-01-08 05:20 (UTC) (Link)

Re: i can't wait to test drive that shit!

sorry- but to tell you the truth i couldn't have test-driven you on a new STI if you put a gun to my head. management @ SCS doesn't let those cars leave the lot under any circumstances. i was lucky to be able to let a few people test a used '04 STi we happened to get from a guy in a bad situation- but i couldn't manage to sell that car to anyone because the dealership wanted to make about 25% profit on the deal (at which point someone might as well buy an '06 wrx with all the options).

try the dealerships in santa cruz, redwood city, or south SF and you may have a little more luck.
lastandreine at 2006-01-07 19:46 (UTC) (Link)
i'm a republican without any 4-digit blue book valued automoblie. so there!!!
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2006-01-07 22:00 (UTC) (Link)
yeah, but you at least get the utility of shock value out of it, rather than just being a blind party-line dumbass... right?
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