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poll: should i swap my 240sx for an earlier model?

Posted on 2003.05.07 at 21:35
so earlier this week i found a listing on a nissan board- there's a guy in s.f. who has a 1993 240sx (2 years earlier than mine, previous body style)- he'd like to trade up to an S14 model (what i have) for his car and a little extra cash.

pretty good condition, similar to mine; the mileage is within an oil-change of my own- has had a fair amount of work done recently, like mine, and needs a couple of minor fixes, as is the case with pretty much any used car (including my current one).

for those who want data to quantify, the earlier model has nearly the same engine/drivetrain (overall output didn't change significantly at the 94/95 switch). the most significant difference is that it should be between 250-300 pounds lighter than mine. definitely not an insignificant amount, especially considering there's probably another 100lbs it could lose without ending up looking like a theft recovery.
the s13 also has the option for the suspension setup i'd really like- ground control sleeves with kyb agx shocks- while this combination isn't available for the 95+ models.

for those who want pictures to compare,
mine (S14):

the other guy's (S13):

while not everyone finds the later-model 240's more visually appealing, i happen to.
but- 300 pounds of curb weight is very hard for the performance-minded enthusiast to ignore.
oh yeah, & those snazzy wheels on the top car would move over to the bottom one if the trade happens.

so, given this info, what's your opinion?

should i swap for the earlier model?

no, keep your s14
yes, get the s13
i honestly don't give a shit

no, the results of this poll will probably not actually affect my decision. :)


Colonel Angus
scosol at 2003-05-08 10:38 (UTC) (Link)
well- i like the looks of your current car better-
BUT (big but)
The wheels do a lot, but the headlight conversion I think is key.
I absolutely ABHOR flip-up headlights on anything- but they especially make that car look bad.
But as you're aware, the thin projector conversion totally changes the look of the car.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-08 15:06 (UTC) (Link)
*nod* for anyone who's curious wtf scott's talking about, here's that car as much of the rest of the world got it-

but i'm thinking most of my aesthetic issues could be addressed with a pdm racing front valance and a set of eastbear fixed lights...
Colonel Angus
scosol at 2003-05-08 15:11 (UTC) (Link)
hmmm the fixed lights look good- but i still like the low-narrows- they just mean business or something-
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-08 16:24 (UTC) (Link)
*nod* i absolutely hate the combination of popup lights and the way the front bumper looks on 91-94 S13s- it looks like there should be a spoiler there; almost like the car's got a massive overbite.

the fixed/valance combo would basically make it look "good enough" until i pulled the two grand together for a silvia front end...
vanspace at 2003-05-08 15:55 (UTC) (Link)
when'd you get an s14?
and does that white s13 happen to belong to a dude named matt from sf who went to ucd?
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-08 16:21 (UTC) (Link)
when'd you get an s14?

this january, after my 16v's engine died.

and does that white s13 happen to belong to a dude named matt from sf who went to ucd?

i don't know where he went to college, but that's his name and location, yup. you know anything in particular about the car?
vanspace at 2003-05-09 03:50 (UTC) (Link)
yah matt hong or something... korean guy from the city. i'm trying to remember anything special about the car... but from what i remembered, it wasn't too bad. just ask him about me, and see what he says >HAHAHA<
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-09 13:54 (UTC) (Link)
just ask him about me, and see what he says >HAHAHA<

i did, actually- he didn't have anything bad to say, seemed like a pretty chill guy all around...
littering and???
antisanity at 2003-05-08 19:03 (UTC) (Link)
k, you know i love s13s, like a lot. but i say keep your s14. if you're gonna get an s13, get a fastback. they look soooo much better than the others.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-08 21:13 (UTC) (Link)
if you're gonna get an s13, get a fastback. they look soooo much better than the others.

idunno 'bout that... & besides- getting a fastback would defeat the intended purpose of the trade, as they're heavier than the coupes... the white one above has no options, whatsoever; it's the lightest stock 240sx i could hope to find on american soil.
littering and???
antisanity at 2003-05-09 15:03 (UTC) (Link)


oh, i didn't know they were lighter than the fastbacks. gah, i dunno though. i really hate the look of those.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-09 17:14 (UTC) (Link)
gimme some time and maybe i'll change your mind...
Tad Griggs
alphakami at 2003-05-08 20:38 (UTC) (Link)
Astetics: I like the fastbacks, I like flip up headlights.

Astetics don't mean SHIT! :P Lightweight is my total preference. What would you rather have underneath your ass. A pile of feathers or a pile of brick? Yeah! Lightweight is good. I agree with your train of thought on why the swap would be good. Suspension, and what you want in suspension is super important... anyway, if the purity of you skill is the goal, get the S13. If not, keep the S14, and if we ever race, which I doubt, cuz you live out there and I live out here, I'll out run your pretty, but fatass without good suspension car!

Just talking shit, man! My thought tho, for what they are worth.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2003-05-08 21:24 (UTC) (Link)
*nod* well, the guy just swung by my house and test-drove the s14, and he seems amiable to trading and throwing a grand my way in the deal- which works fine for me, as that's next month's rent and the parts i need to fix my VW right there.

& yeah, you're spot-on w/ the suspension comments; if i spring for the camber plates, i can get the entire GC/KYB setup fully assembled; that's camber, caster, height, and damping (tho i don't think the AGX's do compress/rebound independently) all at once. tasty.

better yet, he's gonna be upgrading the car to 5-lug in the future, so not getting the 5zigens doesn't bother him, and he'll toss me the good pads/rotors i installed a couple weeks back when he's done. looking like a pretty sweet deal so far...
betternewthings at 2003-05-10 04:52 (UTC) (Link)
I'd go for the lighter weight, because RWD rewards light weight.
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