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Posted on 2002.12.04 at 17:28
maybe i've found something to rant about after all.

let me see if i've got this straight.

"help us lower demand so that we can make sure only approved colombian traffickers get income from selling blow; we're tired of the rebels."

fucknut, rebels don't *exist* unless they're created by percieved oppression. you're the chicken, *they're* the egg.
(translation: keep your citizens happier than they currently are and maybe they'll stop taking up arms against you.)
get it?

the problem would be further exacerbated by the fact that the only drug we can test for with any kind of certainty in the results is marijuana. supposing our president goes along with this idea (something i feel has to be considered a possibility), nationwide piss-tests would ensue, and anyone who hadn't quit smoking bud at least a month earlier would presumably have to explain/deal with their positive results.

drug users who still want to get high will simply move on to something the gov't can't test for. meaning crack, heroin, and meth-

oh, look where the "gateway" is now...

share your thoughts, please.


Damon Amyx
damyx at 2002-12-04 17:42 (UTC) (Link)

me thoughts.

i think mr. uribe needs to take some responisibility for his own (perceived) problems, and not try to delegate it to others. i'd imagine that drug-testing every citizen in the united states would be rather expensive and extremely time-consuming, and impossible to be thorough. while all the old ladies and proper citizens would have to pee in a cup, the lowlives and traffickers would, if not entirely overlooked, probably find a way to dodge it on their own. in the end, i suspect it'd all amount to a big waste of time and resources, much like the drug war itself.

maybe colombia should start producing federally-subsidized coke, thereby providing ample fundage for combatting their left- and right-wing dissidents.
swallowing shadows to give birth to myself
eamajyn at 2002-12-04 20:10 (UTC) (Link)


There are these things called system cleansers and detoxifiers that can have you clean of various things, especially marijuana, within one hour. There is also hair follicle shampoo. Need more information? Click here.

Americans, meaning the public, have proven that we can be very resourceful.
If people want to do drugs, they will find a way. Honestly it can't be that hard. It's not something with such complex science that people couldn't figure out with minimal effort compared to most similar ventures. Even if "nation wide piss-tests" became a standard, within a few if not a couple years at most we'd have something else in place to dodge it or mask results, or who knows what. Even random and unexpected testing would be of little concern. You can't just pull a person out of their home and stick them on a toilet. It's completely invasive. Privacy advocates overturn many government attempts at restricting our freedoms, even when passed by congress. Plus, if they are going to attempt to make this nationwide, good luck creating a system that isn't regulated.
We are kinda big.

Otherwise, you are right.
Without efforts on the part of the people, they will likely move on to other things that won't be visible. That and/or we'll just make more. New drugs will become popular and they'll have to do the whole thing all over again. Good freaking luck there. The minimal repercussions of the entire ordeal would probably end up creating another government financial sink hole.

Unless the government decides to spend vast amounts of money creating an intricate system, or somehow manages to miraculously change it's structure to take the Nazi approach, frankly it's stupid and a waste of resources. Especially if the "president" has anything to do with it.

Of course, I could be wrong and big brother could come out of the shadows at last.
betternewthings at 2002-12-05 04:38 (UTC) (Link)
fucknut, rebels don't *exist* unless they're created by percieved oppression. you're the chicken, *they're* the egg.
(translation: keep your citizens happier than they currently are and maybe they'll stop taking up arms against you.)

Yeah, all those oppressed white yuppie-spawn at Berkeley.

There are all kinds of rebels that are truly distasteful people. If you'd like, go read about the Khmer Rouge today.
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