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from edfyingspectace

Posted on 2002.07.10 at 13:39
Mood: apalled
Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our thoughts, by inhibiting our descisions out of fear of some intangible parent figure shaking a finger at us from years away saying "do it, do it and I'll fuckin' spank you!"


instaromnium at 2002-07-10 14:01 (UTC) (Link)
But yknow, in the grand scheme of things (and especially in the human psyche), people NEED religion, organized or not. And hardcore religious people need that finger shaked at them. It's almost masochistic.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-07-10 16:47 (UTC) (Link)
in the grand scheme of things (and especially in the human psyche), people NEED religion

or they'll what? if the answer is anything less unpleasant than "traumatize young children", in my eyes it's worth considering.

sarcasm aside, you're right - people need to be controlled. i don't get it.
One girl
branded93 at 2002-07-10 15:36 (UTC) (Link)
you could say religion and hope are interwoven... and where would people be if they truly didn't know what hope was?
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-07-10 16:53 (UTC) (Link)
i'll agree that people get hope from the feeling that there may be a better life after this one in which they'll be rewarded for all the shit they did or didn't do while they were here-

granted, that does constitute a relationship of some sort-

but it's a stretch to carry that over to "you can't have hope without religion"; faith in the ethereal is not the only place one can find hope.
One girl
branded93 at 2002-07-10 20:26 (UTC) (Link)


very true... i guess it's just easier to find it in religion... and since most american's are lazy... ;-)
Little Etoile
littleetoile at 2002-07-10 23:58 (UTC) (Link)
Hmm... well it is very hard to say what the world would be like w/o religion because it's really just unfathomable. Religion has shaped the world in so many uncountable ways, and most importantly in such a subconscious manor, that there is no way to predict how dramatically different our planet would be in all aspects, physicalities included. Currently, I think if we took away religion people would panic. They would not be able to function. Forget about the ability to make decisions. And I don't think it is so much the need for control, but the need for guidance in a stern and definite manor. We rely on our parents to provide this role for the first eighteen years (give or take) and then suddenly, what? Who makes the decisions? Panic- "Oh man, what do I do???" Or really, "Oh God, what do I do???" ::Cue heavenly music and light beaming down from sky:: God tells us what to do. Tells us who we are.... then again, in our modern day this would equate to the media being God which doesn't seem too far fetched.... ::shudder:: but anyways, from the beginning we are trained as sheep waiting for our shepherd to lead us to the promise land, a place of better things, always waiting for something better. It's comforting to have that hope and also the security of someone looking out for us. Also makes bad things that happen to us easier to cope with. "Well, that's just God teaching me a lesson." It makes us feel less responsible for our own fuck ups because things are seen as out of our own control. He/She determines our fate so whatever happens down the road we are not responsible for. But truly, the belief in god can be very healing. The psychosomatic effects of praying are incredible. It's all mind over matter. Psychoneuroimmunology. Side note- they have actually identified the area of the brain responsible for a person's belief in a higher power. Damage this area and people suddenly become atheists. Makes religion seem like a sham, but it could also be argued that God was the one who created man and he reserved that special area in the brain to be dedicated to him. *gag*
(Anonymous) at 2002-07-26 13:05 (UTC) (Link)
don't forget the incredible difference between religion and organized religion. and i do have hope without religion. i can hope for a better life within this one, continually working to improve myself. And if there is another life after this then so be it, but i won't spend the time I have here wishing and praying that there is more.
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