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Posted on 2002.06.23 at 00:02
Mood: disappointeddisappointed
this town is really starting to bore the shit out of me.

tonight, i found the local ricer hangout, hoping to lay smack down on some of the altezza-tailed civics i've seen running around town... and waited. kids showed up and left. saw a nice early MR2 with a 4AGZE swap and a 5g civic hatch with an H22A (gonna have to give that some thought); but in general kept checking my watch and waiting for the group to leave en masse- after about 2 hours the crowd had thinned considerably and it became obvious that racing wasn't the purpose of the gathering (which is a damned shame, because there are *tons* of deserted backroads around here), so i bailed, in a frustrated state of mind.

blah.

Comments:


betternewthings at 2002-06-24 00:27 (UTC) (Link)
h-series into a civic is a PITA i hear.
and when you're done, you still have a civic.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-24 10:52 (UTC) (Link)
details here.

and when you're done, you still have a civic.

i suppose, but by that logic all i have now is a golf. *shrug* strip the interior on the civic and you'd be damned close to 10:1 p:w, without any mods...

i've been giving a lot of thought to picking up an '83/84 rabbit GTI shell to drop my 16V into, as i think a.) it really wants a lighter car, and b.) that'd leave a nice six-cylinder-sized hole in the A2; & with prices of used VR6's dropping as the 1.8T swap becomes the new hot ticket...
innocentch1ld
innocentchild at 2002-06-24 11:07 (UTC) (Link)

refresher...

that whole wiring harness is HARD WIRED into the old A2 wiring harness. Talk about PITA?? I'll say it once more - I spent most of my flight to Atlanta tracing schematics from both cars and creating an equivalancy chart for integration of the two. I then got to lay upside down when I got back and strip too many wires, and then soldier (or did I butt connect some?) which was exhausting. Point being if you decide to put another engine in that car you're going to find yourself kicking and screaming dealing with the wiring. Had that car been central electric based life would be happy, but sadly it wasn't and I didn't feel like integrating the CE box into it.

On another note - I still have ALL of the wiring and shit from the A2 that I removed as well as the Passat that the 2.0 16v came out of. I'm going to have to toss it and dump that Passat tranny too unless you want it. Lemme know asap because my parents want the shit gone. I took every bit of wiring from the passat from the dash forward. Complete down to the instrument cluster.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-24 11:41 (UTC) (Link)

haven't forgotten :P

from what i can tell the amount of wires going from engine to chassis itself is pretty minimal; once the coolant lines are disconnected it looks like it wouldn't be *too* incredibly hard just to thread the ECU connector back through the hole in the firewall and transfer the engine (complete w/ your spliced harness) over to another car without even removing any of it. that's the point of having an entire donor car in front of you; you don't have to deal with any of that shit and you have a perfect picture of what things need to look like in the target chassis. am i missing something here?

once that's done, there's a back-halfed corrado VR6 at a yard in rancho cordova, which is maybe an hour from where i'm at now... tow that thing to my house and converting the A2 to central electric will become much less of a PITA.

i *do* want that lever-shifted 02a. i'm gonna be down in the bay in a couple weeks visiting a friend before she bails out of town; i'll try and arrange to swing through and pick it up on my way back.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-24 12:37 (UTC) (Link)

Re: refresher...

blah... or maybe i'll just keep going w/ the idea of converting it to Bosch Motronic. can you tell i'm bored and need something to do up here? :P
innocentch1ld
innocentchild at 2002-06-24 15:14 (UTC) (Link)

Re: refresher...

acutally you are missing a key factor... The harness from the engine comes through the firewall and is directly soldiered to the interior harness. It's not something you can just remove and drop into an A1. And although it seems rather simple (hell I thought it would be when I did it) it sure wasn't. Just plan on a LOT of downtime if you decide to make the swap. You will also have to get a new downpipe to fit the A1. If you're going to convert to CE I would see about swapping ALL of the wiring in a Corrado over the GTi. I remember it being done with that red G60, but again, a lot of time and effort since you will be stripping the entire interior out.

It scares me how well I know that damn car and it's like inside and out. I spent waaaay too much time working on them. Just give me a heads up when you're planning on being out in the eastbay so that I can make sure I'm near my parents house. All the car stuff is there. Oh, and there is the original 2.0 16V head that has all the intake valves blown still. I think that's all the crap I have, but you can just take the whole lot with you.
betternewthings at 2002-06-24 11:37 (UTC) (Link)

Re:

i suppose, but by that logic all i have now is a golf. *shrug* strip the interior on the civic and you'd be damned close to 10:1 p:w, without any mods...

true - but you didn't have to spend five thousand dollars and countless hours trying to fabricate new motor mounts subframes, and driveshafts.

i prefer to do things the easy way. instead of blowing five grand trying to get an H-series motor into a civic, why not spend five grand on a spoon B18C, which will take a weekend's work to install?

i've been giving a lot of thought to picking up an '83/84 rabbit GTI shell to drop my 16V into, as i think a.) it really wants a lighter car, and b.) that'd leave a nice six-cylinder-sized hole in the A2; & with prices of used VR6's dropping as the 1.8T swap becomes the new hot ticket...


i've been wondering about the viability of diesel shells of that era - light weight, and no smog restrictions. that way, you could put some big flatside mikunis on short runners on your 16V

ksh
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-24 11:54 (UTC) (Link)
true - but you didn't have to spend five thousand dollars and countless hours trying to fabricate new motor mounts subframes, and driveshafts.

check that link i posted- HAsport makes a mount kit, and besides that the remaining tasks include pulling a to-be-extraneous mounting bracket and finding a fan that's thin enough to squeeze between the engine and the radiator; and finally, a combination of stock parts from accord and integra will provide for the axles.

i thought it'd be more of a pain in the ass as well, but even the hardest part is taken care of if you're willing to blow the cash; HAsport also makes custom wiring harnesses intended for the swap...
prisonerofearth at 2002-06-26 13:50 (UTC) (Link)
When I first glanced at this post, I thought that you were talking about guns.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-26 15:21 (UTC) (Link)
hahahaha- no, the redneckedness(?) of this town hasn't pervaded *that* much yet. my stepdad does have quite a sizable stash (including a lot of 12-gauges and an M16 that's never been fired), but they just don't interest me that much-

to decode, in case you're interested:
a 4AGZE is a nifty version of the early MR2 (yanno, the "flying doorstop" one) that came with a supercharger.
an H22A is the VTEC motor out of a Honda Prelude. shoehorning one into a tiny little civic would make for a pretty fast car, i'd think.
prisonerofearth at 2002-06-26 16:26 (UTC) (Link)

Re:

Car talk is like Japanese to me. Gun talk is like English.
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-26 17:15 (UTC) (Link)
ah- then i suppose a little showing off is in order ;)
prisonerofearth at 2002-06-26 18:34 (UTC) (Link)

Re:

Fuck. Me.

*splurt*
Generation Y's Howard Beale
dk at 2002-06-26 19:26 (UTC) (Link)
to get more specific about it, i do know that it's an M16A2 variant and a "vietnam war commemorative" edition; gold plated trigger, muzzle, and a bunch of nifty gold-filled engraving on it.

i'd never actually handled it before; amazing how light it is. when i was 12, i got an air rifle for xmas that was at least 2x as heavy.

glad you enjoyed =)
prisonerofearth at 2002-06-26 19:43 (UTC) (Link)

Re:

Wow, that's cool. I did enjoy.
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